I tend to regard the threaded architecture as closer to
dialogue. Plus, who says serial monologue (i.e. broadcast) is not a
good model for some things?
In that case, it would be entirely up to whoever is the
originator. A good blogger who follows his/her field of interest
closely will write a blog post in response to someone else, and so
on. I think it's down to the people to get involved. They'll find a
way ;)
as for "blogs ... are serial monologue", well... you seem to
never had a blog on livejournal.com - that's the place where
dialogs could spuriously go into thousands
comments... pity, it had gone into wrong hands, which try to make
mass-media from it.
I think the premise is wrong. Real dialogue springs from
engaging entry points, wherever those are found. Microblogs allow
something closer to what I'd consider "real dialogue" than blog
comments, in that people tend to keep their comments short,
allowing more people to share the visual bandwidth. Blog comments
end up more like formal debates, with a series of long speeches.
Dialogue depends on no one person monopolizing bandwidth.
In a complex dialogue it should be very easy to point to and
import other parts of discussion. I have never seen any proper
tools for this. Copy+paste and urls don't count as proper
though can be used to a similar, if limited purpose
@gatestone yup, i'm
sure i'm not the only person thinking "this has to be wrong" when i
use scrollbars to navigate across discussions at
webboards. I so miss proper tools for participating in
discussion
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Engage your users through community involvement, duuuuh ;)
3 months, 3 weeks ago by edythemighty.
I tend to regard the threaded architecture as closer to dialogue. Plus, who says serial monologue (i.e. broadcast) is not a good model for some things?
3 months, 3 weeks ago by jyri.
In that case, it would be entirely up to whoever is the originator. A good blogger who follows his/her field of interest closely will write a blog post in response to someone else, and so on. I think it's down to the people to get involved. They'll find a way ;)
3 months, 3 weeks ago by edythemighty.
@jyri: monologue is Ok mostly when you have persuade yourself ;)
3 months, 3 weeks ago by silpol.
... to persuade... :)
3 months, 3 weeks ago by silpol.
as for "blogs ... are serial monologue", well... you seem to never had a blog on livejournal.com - that's the place where dialogs could spuriously go into thousands comments... pity, it had gone into wrong hands, which try to make mass-media from it.
3 months, 3 weeks ago by silpol.
I think the premise is wrong. Real dialogue springs from engaging entry points, wherever those are found. Microblogs allow something closer to what I'd consider "real dialogue" than blog comments, in that people tend to keep their comments short, allowing more people to share the visual bandwidth. Blog comments end up more like formal debates, with a series of long speeches. Dialogue depends on no one person monopolizing bandwidth.
3 months, 3 weeks ago by spongefile.
Hmmm..Jaiku is also a real dialogue, I think. Because it has "conferencing system" features like threads! That's why it's better than Twitter.
But in the end, there has always been Usenet News and NNTP. A global real discussion should be designed as a protocol, not as a Web page...
3 months, 3 weeks ago by gatestone.
In a complex dialogue it should be very easy to point to and import other parts of discussion. I have never seen any proper tools for this. Copy+paste and urls don't count as proper though can be used to a similar, if limited purpose
3 months, 3 weeks ago by mace.
@gatestone yup, i'm sure i'm not the only person thinking "this has to be wrong" when i use scrollbars to navigate across discussions at webboards. I so miss proper tools for participating in discussion
3 months, 3 weeks ago by mace.