jyri said:

jyri
grumpy

Oh no, just realized our guest is using my phone with a European SIM card and the Jaiku client is active, it is raking up a giant phone bill

3 months, 2 weeks ago in Mission Dolores, San Francisco, USA.

4 comments so far

  • jyri

    Luckily it's mostly been within our home Wi-Fi for the last couple of days...

    3 months, 2 weeks ago by jyri.

  • jeroen020

    I still don't get why it has to be this way - why can't carriers just sent you a txt as soon as you exceed your monthly consumption by, say, 50 Euro? I know so many people that got stung by a huge data roaming bill, some of them don't want to touch mobile data ever again as a result. Very short term thinking in the carrier's end.

    3 months, 2 weeks ago by jeroen020.

  • terolehtt

    @jeroen020: I believe your home carrier can receive the information of your data traffic days or even weeks afterwards. It won't help much at that point.

    The main problem is that data roaming is this seriously expensive. It's bringing nice revenues from a few companies to a few companies. As far as I know, regular consumers don't usually when use data when travelling abroad.

    The whole of EU suffers because of this, but a couple of large telcos make some nice profits. Even if EU commission puts an end to this between EU countries, the problem remains for those who are travelling from Asia and US or vice versa.

    3 months, 2 weeks ago by terolehtt.

  • jeroen020

    @terolehtt - as more consumers are upsold to get a data plan, often promoted as 'all you can eat', on top of their voice & messaging plans, they get used to e-mail, sending pictures, browsing the web and even watching online video's on their phone and/or laptop using WAN. It's these people that risk being ripped off (or at least absurdly billed) and whose trust and interest in mobile access to the internet can be damaged so much so easily.

    As for interoperability on billing, somebody in the value chain will notice that somebody is spending a lot on roaming (if not the home carrier, then at least the carrier with whom the carrier is roaming). In times like these, a home carrier hiding behind a statement that you 'can't get the information from the roaming carrier' is totally artificial, and only serves political/business profit, there is no valid functional or technical reason for this anymore. (Imagine, these companies are all about selling you network capacity for realtime communication, and among themselves need more time than a letter did in the 19th Century to send a charge to the other party?)

    Anyway, as you say, it's at least good that the EU is stepping in, but it is a disgrace that the telco industry did not self-regulate and, in the case of intercontinental roaming, still make no effort in self-regulation & consumer protection.

    3 months, 2 weeks ago by jeroen020.

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